Re: Whats your beleif on being saved?

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If predestination isnt true, than we are all going to hell. Just think of the thoughts youve already thought about today. I beleive that man is depraved, and nothing good lives within us. The bible says “We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. The bible says “Our best works are as filthy rags”.


No One is Righteous
9What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”[c]
13″Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[d]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[e]
14″Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[f]
15″Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16ruin and misery mark their ways,
17and the way of peace they do not know.”[g]
18″There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[h]

It says there that no one SEEKS God. If No one seeks than no one will find God.. Am I right. Read that scripture there, thats the state of man before he is saved. The bible says that we are Dead in Sin, how can a Dead man do anything???? How can a Dead man Chose God???

You explain to me how a wicked, sinful man who is dead in his Sin who hates God one day decide to Chose him???

The bible says we are saved by Grace, not by works that way no man can Boast. Grace means “Undeserved favor” UNDESERVED. If your beleiveing in a Works salvation, or if you beleive that you some how mustard up the faith to Chose God, then you deserve it right.., I mean you Chose him.

The bible says “All that the father has GIVEN to him shall come to him”

God Gave Him a people chosen before the foundation of the world. It says it right there. ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS GIVEN TO HIM… God GAVE them to him.. How can you argue that???? God is soverign in all he does.