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A. Z. Tozer on Worship


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    “Worship is no longer worship when it reflects the culture around us more than the Christ within us.” AW Tozer

    ‘Nuff said!

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    Most definitely food for thought. Depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, just think on this. If Paul, Peter, or John were present during one of our worship services would they recognize what was going on?

    And a lot of hyms sung today that are cherished favorites of several main line denominations are written to the tune of a popular beer drinking tavern song in its day. Which one would have to come to the conclusion that those tunes resembled the culture at that time. I think it is wisdom to walk the fine line when it comes to ministering in this fashion. It is something I think of quite a lot actually.

    I am for ministering to a generation or culture by using non traditional means but not at the cost of sacrificing the heart of the tradition. And I am speaking of tradition of the Holy things passed on from Apostle to bishop until the present day. I am not speaking of traditionalism. There is a difference in the two. Tradition is good, traditionalism is bad.

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    It is something I think of quite a lot actually.

    I’m with you on that one. When I saw this little gem of a quote it really sprung out at me. It’s easy to get caught up in what’s around us but we gotto keep ‘looking inwards’ to test what’s in our hearts.

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    I really like Tozer. One of my favorites is his book called Knowledge of the Holy. He has some great insights into the Godhead and the holiness of God. Something you have to watch out for though is his own opinions when it comes to culture. He shares an experience on a plane where he notices a young hippie (or what he called a hippie). You would think that by Tozer’s standards that poor kid was doomed to hell because he had long hair and such. When it came to culture or the next generation I found Tozer out of touch with what God’s heart was. I think about that too. If I grow to be a white haired old man will I still see the possibilities for God to use the next generation or a different culture than I’m accustomed to or will I write them off as having missed their destiny in God? I pray for the former not the latter.

    #37211
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    @kingd53 wrote:

    “Worship is no longer worship when it reflects the culture around us more than the Christ within us.” AW Tozer

    I agree with the quote as it stands. Anything that is more about culture, ourselves, dancing, singing, feeling good, etc. than it is about Christ can never be worship. You cannot worship something/someone that you place something else ahead of. If you do so, you’re actually worshiping the “something else”.

    However, Josiah’s right about the rabbit hole. Just because something reflects the culture in which it was created, it isn’t robbed of its capability to be used for worship. The words “more than” are key to the validity of the quote.

    #37212
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    I think about that too. If I grow to be a white haired old man will I still see the possibilities for God to use the next generation or a different culture than I’m accustomed to or will I write them off as having missed their destiny in God? I pray for the former not the latter.

    Excellant.
    Thanks for that Josiah, this is what being part of a christian community is all about. Sharing our hearts on different subject matters ;)

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