Anyone seen/heard the Glenn Beck rally? It was all about God

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    So first off late me say I know virtually nothing about Glenn Beck. But I heard the rally was by and large about God, so I thought I’d check it out.

    There were flaws with it sure, but a huge portion of it was about GOD, the Gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord, his sovereignty, and our absolute necessary reliance on him.

    Anybody see or hear this thing? Worth checking out if you didn’t IMO.

    edit as I continue to watch: plenty of flaws

    Avatar of graphite412

    ya Glen Beck is a mormon. He tries to walk to fence with Christians, but he really doesn’t know the Bible that well. Mormons don’t believe that the Bible is inerrant, but that it has flaws. So instead they use the book of mormon as their book and the Bible as a side book. So many mormons really don’t know basics of the Bible at all.

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    Post-edit edit: I’m on vid part 13 of 17 now. He just lumped synagogues, churches and mosques together. This jam is WACK. The first half or so mentioned only the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ via the speakers, but otherwise mainly just the generic concept of “God.”

    This rally is trying to sell America on generic wal-mart brand “God” you can get at anywhere they claim to be religious.

    Absolute nonsense.

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    Sounds like most of the right-wing bunch who claim to be Christians. It really is a bummer that we get represented by people like this.

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    @frogb0tter wrote:

    This jam is WACK…

    Glenn Beck is WACK.

    Totally agree with Levi here.

    I never want to be lumped in with that moron.

    I saw him talking about soccer one time as if it was a left wing consipacy.

    He definitely does not represent me.

    I just can’t understand why so many self repsecting Christians go to a guy like that for their opinions (I mean news…ummmm… If you want to call it that…)

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    @djsoulchas3r wrote:

    @frogb0tter wrote:
    This jam is WACK…

    Glenn Beck is WACK.

    Totally agree with Levi here.

    I never want to be lumped in with that moron.

    I saw him talking about soccer one time as if it was a left wing consipacy.

    He definitely does not represent me.

    I just can’t understand why so many self repsecting Christians go to a guy like that for their opinions (I mean news…ummmm… If you want to call it that…)

    I think a lot of it is we are afraid. If we see someone in power who professes to be a Christian, even if they don’t live the Christian life, we automatically think they are anointed by God or something like that. That seems to be why so many Christians follow so-called Christian leaders without any questions.

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    -extracts by Jan Markell.

    Could we say that the church has failed to wake up very many
    people so, by default, a Mormon — Glenn Beck — has made quite
    a stir and has become an official spiritual leader? He rallied
    hundreds of thousands last weekend with themes of faith and love
    of our country. Americans are desperate and fearful of what is
    coming upon this land so they look to a Mormon for leadership.
    I am glad his Saturday event was successful for just some of
    these reasons…

    * Faith and patriotism were lifted up — two items that the Left despises.

    * Attendees were passionate — traveling thousands of miles and,
    once arriving in D.C., walking for miles, even if handicapped.

    * Conservative Americans must gather together to fortify one another.
    Such events strengthen one another and offer hope. Finding kindred
    spirits in a depressing age is essential…

    In light of the positive aspects of the honoring America weekend,
    could there possibly be a down side?…

    The theme of the Friday gathering of spiritual leaders and the
    Saturday rally was an encouragement to turn back to God. The
    not-so-subtle theme was “many faiths, but one God.”

    I believe many conservative Christians would have been relieved if
    Glenn had not brought out Mormon doctrine that very few are
    familiar with. He stated at the Saturday event that the American
    Indians are the “chosen people” — blatant Mormon doctrine. The
    crowd applauded in approval. You can view that here at the 4:30
    mark. He stated — and has affirmed this on his radio and television
    programs — that God is the only answer. While much was trouble-
    some last weekend, who else is sticking their neck out saying we
    have to turn back to God and gathering hundreds of thousands in
    the process? It would be wonderful if Franklin Graham or even Joel
    Rosenberg could attract a half-million people and deliver the true
    gospel. We aren’t quite there yet. Again, by default, we defer to
    Glenn Beck.

    The weekend opened on Friday night, Augsust 27, with Glenn’s
    “Divine Destiny” program which again, is straight out of Mormonism.
    Many participants have implied, or blatantly stated, that Glenn is a
    “saved Mormon” or on the way to becoming one.

    Friend and frequent radio guest John McTernan, was present both
    days just to observe. He writes on his blog, “There were several
    prayers offered at the Friday event and none were made in the
    name of Jesus. I was deeply grieved after I left.

    “On Saturday, I attended the rally. If it had been just political, I
    could accept Beck as a leader; however, it went way beyond that.
    I am not questioning anything about Beck’s character or motives.
    What I am deeply grieved about is that this was not led by the real
    church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Is America in such desperate
    spiritual condition that masses of Christians will follow a Mormon
    for spiritual revival?”

    McTernan continues, “The sheep in America are desperate and
    fearful of what is coming, so they look to a Mormon for leadership.
    A Mormon leading a meeting like this for America turning back to
    God should have God-fearing pastors in America on their knees
    crying out to God for mercy. I am grieved, not so much with Glenn
    Beck, but that the church is so pitifully weak that a Mormon can
    now lead God’s people, and they do not see the spiritual danger.”

    What are major Mormon beliefs and how do they play into this
    scenario? When God is the professed focus of the August 27-28
    weekend, what is the deeper meaning? And Glenn is outspoken
    about his Mormon faith. He so-stated that fact many times over
    the weekend and in the weeks and months leading up to it. It was
    not subtle or hidden. But Glenn does not bring out the bullet points
    below because it reads like science fiction.

    Mormon theology teaches:

    * God was born and raised on another planet.

    * He has a harem of wives.

    * They produce spirit-babies that are sent to earth; there they gain
    bodies and earn sainthood.

    * Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.

    * Jesus is the chosen/ elected savior by a council of gods from
    other worlds.

    * America is the promised land, not Israel. The holy city is
    Independence, Missouri, not Jerusalem. Jesus’ latter-day agenda
    is to return to Missouri.

    * The U.S. Constitution is as sacred as the Book of Mormon. In
    the latter days, it will be under siege and will be saved by Mormons.
    Thus, we must “reclaim America” to save the Constitution and
    usher in a genuine age of Mormon leadership. They want to build
    a Mormon kingdom on earth, similar to modern day Dominionists/
    Kingdom Now proponents within Christianity. Founder Joseph
    Smith had a socialistic philosophy and wished to have a society
    that shared things in common.

    * America’s founding fathers were “spirit babies” who created a
    “sacred Constitution.”

    * Salvation is works-based and not through grace and faith.

    This is what Glenn Beck believes. Is the god of this system, this
    faith, the one he referred to when he stated, “Today, America turns
    back to God?” Is his god concept one we can turn back to?

    For greater insights, visit the Web site of former Mormon and radio
    guest, Ed Decker. Also visit the apologetics’ site of Eric Barger.

    Brannon Howse has done extensive radio programs and written
    cutting-edge articles on this issue for over a week…

    In short, Mormonism has a different holy book, father, Jesus,
    concept of grace, salvation, end-times, etc. You cannot be a
    “saved Mormon.” Evangelicals who should know better already
    call him a “brother in Christ.” Some of those share the Mormon
    “dominion” of the earth and this is their connection. Promoting
    this false end-time theology of making the earth perfect seems to
    trump everything else. We can’t save the earth and make it perfect.
    Jesus Christ has to return to do that…

    “Evangelicals and Mormons Together” will be next. Why not? A
    Mormon successfully called a nation back to God.

    Most who stand with Glenn, however, do not embrace this theology.
    Some Christian leaders are just deceived and others think it is hip
    and cool to align themselves with a man who is so prominent and
    so pro-America.

    John McTernan states, “I know Mormonism real well. There is a
    Mormon prophecy that America is going to be nearly destroyed
    with the Constitution hanging by a thread. A Mormon savior would
    arrive and lead the Mormon church to save America. I can see this
    coming into play real soon. Maybe the revival Beck is talking about
    is a massive conversion to Mormonism.”

    We sincerely hope Glenn Beck will become a true brother in Christ.
    We can pray to that end and also that Christian leaders will sharpen
    their discernment and understand the disservice they are doing to
    the body of Christ by exalting an unsaved man, and allowing him
    to be a virtual shepherd over millions of Americans who just want
    to take back America.

    SOURCE – http://www.olivetreeviews.org – August 31, 2010.

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    some friends of mine and I were talking that we should pray for him to put his trust in the Lord. He is around a lot of on fire Christians. Maybe he can find the truth from them. :)

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    Compromise is whoredom. But good things will come of this. I always remind myself that God uses even the pagan kings for His glory.

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