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    Avatar of Crill
    Crill
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    State…

    #37018
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
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    It’s disgusting and intolerable..

    #37019

    Rodimus
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    agreed. its a sin just like any other.

    no room for argument on this no matter how liberal this world gets.

    #37020
    Avatar of graphite412
    graphite412
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    @djrodimus wrote:

    no room for argument on this no matter how liberal this world gets.

    agreed.

    God is clear that it is a sin, and He is the one Who calls the shots. It is a sexual sin, the same as fornication or adultery.

    #37021
    Avatar of glm
    glm
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    I’ll speak only for myself as a Christian. I can’t speak for all of Christendom. ;)

    It’s only sinful if acted upon, just as temptation to commit heterosexual pre- or extra-marital sex is sinful only if acted upon (either physically or mentally). It can result from abuse or natural tendencies.

    It seems to me that many Christians often judge homosexual activity very harshly while being far more lenient towards, accepting of, or even participating in heterosexual fornication.

    When completing a survey taken by our church on the topic, my wife and I responded that the church and congregation should treat an active homosexual no differently than they would treat a sexually active unmarried heterosexual.

    #37022

    Rodimus
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    ^ well said man.

    #37023
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    Axident
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    My neighbours are openly gay and I have struggled with this question on many different levels. I can not argue that the acts of homosexuality are sinful to the core, but does that make the person unloved by God? If God loves them but hates the sin in their lives is He not asking them to be people they are not? Many people argue that being a homosexual is not a cognitive choice they make and it is a chemical one, much like how I may find women with red hair attractive yet not be particularly fond of brunettes. Having talked with gay friends in my life they just do not find the female form as attractive as the male form and as is the case with the majority of them this attraction was noticed at a very young age but usually not acted upon until they were older. I seriously struggle to find a happy mid-ground between telling them that God loves them as they are and that they need to change their sinful lifestyle. What are your thoughts? Do you have any gay friends? Have you approached them about this issue? I don’t want scripture thrown at me to show me that it is a sin… I wish to figure out how to deal with people of the homosexual lifestyle in a Christ-like and loving manner.

    #37024

    This is a tough subject. Just as it is tough to witness to family members, people from your past life (before you were born again) or likewise other’s who’s hearts are hardened to the point they are not willing to accept the Gospel. That Does Not mean we give up on them. If we are truly filled with God’s Spirit, His Spirit will guide us in what we do and what to say.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGIPqXhofE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXKT8IPdvzA

    #37025

    Rodimus
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    God loves us inspite of our sin. Hey loves gays as well but just because God loves someone doesn’t mean they have salvation…

    I look at it this way. Living as a homosexual is a perpetually sinful lifestyle. Its a choice to continue a particular sin with no intent or desire to stop. Thats a lot differnt from the pastor who messes up and watches a porno then honestly repents and is greived by his action. Both examples are sin but the pastor recognizes it repents and turns from it (somtimes to fall again but turns non the less) and the homosexual says, “I either don’t care that this is sin or I don’t admit that its sin and I’m going to live this way no matter what the Bible says.”

    Also, the Bible calls homoesexuality an “abomination” and there aren’t to many things it singles out like that…just food for thought.

    So this big question is can anyone be gay (without attempting to stop) and have salvation at the same time? Well I personally believe this answer is no…however… I hope that I’m wrong.

    #37026

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    let me make a quick follow-up…

    I truely believe that a gay man can get saved and then still have gay thoughts and desires and even sin sexually as Christ is helping him heal / be delivered / etc from the sin but there is a point where if he’s not progessivly getting better or better yet he stops trying and just decides to continue the gay lifestyle regardless of what he knows is right then the Bible calls this apostacy and we all know that that means.

    I heard a really good sermon about how to know if you’ve fallen into apostacy…

    #1 If you’re worried that you have fallen into it then you haven’t :D The Holy Spirit is still talking to your heart and bringing conviction to that area of sin that has worried you.

    #2 If you no longer feel the conviction of the HS over a sin issue that was a struggle for you and you continue to do then you might be in trouble…

    This could be a good example for gays who claim to know whats right (at least at some point) then continue to commit the sin over and over and never feel bad about it. Even worse…they are proud of it!

    Again, for the sake of thier souls I hope that everything I’ve learned and heard and read from the Word in this area I’m misunderstanding…but I don’t think thats the case.

    I pray God’s grace over thier lives.

    #37027
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    1 Corinthians 6:9 “Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor abusers, nor homosexuals,
    10 nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    11 And some were these things, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God.”

    Verse 11 shows that repentance can be given and that one can change from this sinful lifestyle! Amen!

    #37028

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    Those verses sum it all up perfectly.

    #37029
    Avatar of Josiah Fingaz
    Josiah Fingaz
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    @Axident wrote:

    If God loves them but hates the sin in their lives is He not asking them to be people they are not? Many people argue that being a homosexual is not a cognitive choice they make and it is a chemical one, much like how I may find women with red hair attractive yet not be particularly fond of brunettes.

    1. God loves everyone and asks us all to be what we are not. He asks us to be what He created us to be. That life is only possible through the grace available through Christ.

    2. All of our decisions involve chemicals that is how we were created. But we are not meant to be driven by instincts but by pursuing what is good, acceptable, and the perfect will of God. That is what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom. Thus He made us a little lower than the angels. Really, this answer goes back to answer one.

    #37030

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    guys i just want to interject and say that I’m really proud of this community for being able to discuss this question maturely and Biblically without starting a flaming war…

    no pun intended :o :lol:

    well…maybe a little pun… :shock: ;)

    #37031

    @djrodimus wrote:

    guys i just want to interject and say that I’m really proud of this community for being able to discuss this question maturely and Biblically without starting a flaming war…

    no pun intended :o :lol:

    well…maybe a little pun… :shock: ;)

    ^^ :lol:

    But seriously…

    The Bible is definitely clear on the matter, so no room for argument there. Man and woman was made to be man and woman, not man and man. I agree with glm. It is a sin just like any other and should be treated as such, and only acting a upon it is considered a sin. Temptation is not the same as sin, because even Jesus was tempted. It should be treated as any other sexual sin, addiction, idolatry etc. All we can do is try to share the gospel and pray for these people, for they need it the most. Do your best to be a solid example of the love of God to them as opposed to condemning them so that they might not turn their backs on God completely. It’s not our jobs to judge these people, as we were one in the same unrighteous, sinful, wretched, disgusting boat as them at one point. We were born into it, and were liberated from it by God grace alone.

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