January 5, 2011 at 4:17 pm #22861
I think that my mind is haunted.. I am not sure I’d call it total demonic possession but what I will call it is a demonic haunting. They say if you are a Christian you cannot be demon possessed, but my poor brain has just completely lost touch with the real christian lifestyle. I think it’s a matter of putting God first. And apparently I am not doing that. I smoke pot, cigarettes and drink on occasion so this could be the reason I feel so out of touch. Let it be known that i PLAN ON QUITTING, all of those things it’s just that the addiction has a hold of me and I cannot quite get a grip on the reality of Christ. I read my bible and I pray.. So it’s like I don’t know what to do other than just go to Church with my mom and try to steer clear of doing stupid stuff.
Any Advice is welcome…January 5, 2011 at 5:19 pm #36554
I don’t want to discount a possible supernatural cause; however, there are a couple of spiritual–but not demonic–reasons that I see as contributing to your difficulties in your relationship with Christ….
1. You’re caught up in addictive behaviors. Addictions control us and are essentially idols that we’re placing ahead of God. (I say this as someone with previous first-hand experience with addiction.)
2. You’re regularly doing things that it seems you would acknowledge are sinful. Unconfessed sin–especially habitual sin–creates a sort of barrier between us and God.
In my experience, I’ve seen too many people ask for prayer for deliverance from demons when the fact of the matter is that they actually need to address issues and choices in their lives and aren’t doing so.
Find a good recovery group (preferably a Christ-based one). Get as much accountability and prayer support around yourself as you can. Do everything you can to eliminate situations where you can do those activities, especially the pot. And pray. Pour your heart out to Jesus. Be honest about your feelings with Him. If you feel like He’s distant or abandoned you, tell Him. He can take it. Read through the Psalms. David frequently started out more or less chewing God out but always ended up praising Him in the end.
I’ll be praying for you.January 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm #36555
^ x2January 5, 2011 at 8:34 pm #36556
Lord we lift up Monster Baby help him to draw closer to you. We declare that he wants to stop his addictive behavior and follow you. We ask that you help him with this. Allow him to get accountability. Allow him to get help he needs. Help him confess this problem to others like he has done here. Help him to know you more intimately. I know you love him. Allow him to feel the love and freedom you bring on the Cross. It might not be an easy road to break this addiction. Help him to get the help he needs. We pray this in Jesus name. Amen!January 7, 2011 at 2:24 am #36557
These two sermons help me get fired up with putting God first. It’s something as a new Christian I’ve been having quite a bit of trouble with. Temptation doesn’t go away when someone becomes a Christian, and the enemy will never stop attacking. Whenever I stumble and give in to temptaions i feel that gap, but remember being a Christian isn’t about being perfect, but about loving Christ and putting Him first before anything else in your life.
Get on your knees, beg for mercy, and pray pray pray! I’ll do the same for you! Don’t be afraid to reach out. Lots of churches I’ve been to have life groups or accountability groups that would be extremely helpful.
I don’t know exactly where you are on your walk with God, it’s important to remember that we cannot overcome sin and temptaion on our own strength. Throw your pride out the window and tlet God take over.
I hope this makes sense :sJanuary 7, 2011 at 12:53 pm #36558
@JBrad- good advice man.
Something else that may help you is to get yourself into some good patterns/habits. Set aside a time when you wake up to read and pray. Even if it is only for a few minutes. Starting your day with a prayer of thanksgiving, asking for direction, and reading a scripture or two can dramatically change your day. Also, make a list of the habits that you get into that aren’t promoting positive growth in your life. Try to replace those things by attending a life group or small bible study like mentioned before. I was addicted to drugs and crime. It was hard to break those patterns myself even though I tried to pursue God. Power really came when I started developing relationships of accountability with other christians who could help me in my walk with Jesus. Also, there seems to be something about service that helps as well. It’s the giving of yourself and expecting nothing in return that starts to break the selfish behavior that addicts are rampant with. Hope this helps.January 10, 2011 at 1:42 am #36559
the thing about it is that I have these dreams where people talk to me and some of them I will put my hand on the bible and contest that it IS God speaking to me but others are just so outrageous that I think they are demonic attacks…January 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm #36560
Sometimes dreams are just dreams. What do you watch and read? That can have an affect on what you dream as well. Also, being stressed out can make you dream weird things. God can speak to you through your dreams but I wouldn’t give to much heed to what you are dreaming.January 11, 2011 at 5:02 am #36561
Monster Baby, I get your concern and understand the place you’re at right now in my own way.
Man, sometimes what we preach at people comes from way out in left field, but I know these guys have the right heart. What they said is pretty good, but I’m thinking it’s not quite on point with you, or you would have come back with a praise report or something.
When I read what you said, my sister came to mind. She and I had a very similar conversation since (name not used to protect the innocent) had occasionally smoked pot and smoked cigarettes.
Basically she felt that she must not be Christian because she smokes pot and its a drug. She couldn’t allow herself to have any interaction with God while she was high, because she felt so wrong about it. If I may be so bold as to say, …drugs are just a thing! Drugs are used for good. They’re used for evil. They’re used for recreation. They’re used for ill behavior. The intent here is the heart of the matter.
Now that we have that out. Yes, allow it to just get out of your system. The notion that the drug use itself is sin. Tell me something. How is it that alcohol kills far more people and yet it’s this very thing, worse than pot IMHO, that Jesus turned water into – just for a party. Yes – a party. Wedding receptions are parties. Jesus partied. No, Jesus parties. I believe He loves to party with us too. Enthusiasm – a very interesting word – God within. Enthusiasm is a form of fun or enjoyment. Perhaps I digress.
The point is, that by telling you that the addiction is the sin, you are trapped and find it even harder to allow the Holy Spirit to teach you all things. Most theology would probably scoff at this suggestion I imagine, but as I’ve studied and come to understand Gods word and heart, he isn’t interested in outward appearances, but in sharing His love directly with your own heart. I really wish this would be the emphasis more often with any outreaches.
In the case of my sister, who well, if you caught the key-phrasing, couldn’t allow herself to interact with God. She went to church too. She even hears from Him about important choices in her life, and about others. She beat herself up over this though. I think IMHO, for no other reason than the bombardment of the very notion that drugs equal sin.
Let me say, that I don’t do drugs anymore, I don’t advocate them being used excessively, but I don’t like condemning anyone that does it. Even if they are Christian. It simply isn’t for me to decide it. It’s not for me, but I might do some again when I’m 100 years old just for kicks lol.
Making a long story a bit shorter, after pleading with my sister to stop beating herself up, and just accept that maybe God wants communion with her at any time whether sober, high, or indifferent, she began to feel that God loves her more than caring about a substance and it’s supposed sinful ramifications.
After a few weeks she told me that she opened up and used her high times to be with God on High, and had communion with Him again. She has some pretty awesome times with Him now.
While there’s a whole huge set of things that could be discussed about drugs, and their compatibility with Christianity, there is one thing I would like to remind us of. We as humans, even the best of us, and most christianly Christians, still commit the most basic sins – ones of thoughts in our hearts, which no one can judge but God to have happened in the first place. Jesus told us this and people always want to elaborate more on the sins that are so obvious because they are visible.
Jesus spoke of sins yes. He died for us and took them yes. Talked mostly about sins all day long – NO, He did and does not. He taught us that love covers a multitude of sins. We ought to take home from that, one simple thing: let’s Love.
By even speaking of sin nearly is trying to trump the importance of love, and by not loving, it is such a cold room to be in.
You’ve got to see the message by now. Love conquers all. The very possibility of communion with Him is because of Love. It’s not about being pure and sinless before entering into communion anymore. That’s old hat man. God knows that to change us into ever perfect beings, he’s got to start with dirt! He had that rule in the old testament already knowing that NOBODY qualified.
By trying to qualify others or our own selves, we miss the opportunity we have to Love. God is Love. It would stand to reason then, that loving is pretty important, and by definition is higher than the rules that keep mankind separated from that Love. From God.
So if you take something away from your time spent on this forum, please let it be that all those things you listed are conquered by Love if they even are such that needed to be conquered. Just let God do His thing. His own process in our life is refining. It burns out what He isn’t gonna have for us as we love Him and let Him share love in us.
Don’t be afraid to approach Him in your worst state. In your best state. In any frame of mind. It’s far better to think and dwell on Him than the fact that you have drugs in your brain. He owns the particles that your brain is made of and could certainly make you sober if He wanted.
Some Christian ministries even seek out a non-substance related “holy high”. It is almost begging the question – what difference is it? I think the difference should be God’s love, which if your heart comes to the right place, I believe even if you’re using drugs or alcohol, you would still find.
A lot of folks would claim that once the “power of Christ” hits you, you immediately lose all desire to sin and might even have to speak in tongues or something. I don’t claim that this notion is wrong, but I’d say there’s surely an exception to the rule, because not every true believer instantly has such a transformation. From my own experience, and many on this forum would say so as well, God leads us through a journey and a process. It’s probably long. We shouldn’t try and make any promises here. It’s probably painful and very unpleasant. Just being real with you. It has rewards though. Tangible rewards for our present life. Yes eternal too, but those who endure hardships get something in return. It’s a cause and effect. I won’t and can’t even suggest what it is for you. Be creative. Entertain the imagination God gave you. What He’s got in store for you, He might just inspire in your heart.
So coming full circle back to the HEART, there’s a reason it’s got that silly shape that really looks nothing like a heart organ. It’s symbol has come to be known as and represent love.
I’m sure you understand that there are many loves. Many kinds. Use your heart and imagination – seek the meaning of the kinds of love God wants and is. We are invited to, not coerced, and that is how He loves us and wants us to love.
I think you are actually a cool person to grace us with your words on this forum. I don’t think you are insane, or crazy, or demon perzessed/perplexed/troubled etc. I <3 you brah. You are at peace, and in harmony with God and you know who you are and where you stand. You are absolutely welcome here at our forums, and free to join in on any discussion.
I hope to talk with you more as you do, and get to know how cool you are, and what the things are that make you unique and interesting, and how come you became interested in us here at Gods DJs forum.January 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm #36562
Reading back over what I wrote, it does sounds really works-based. I do think that the things that I said are valid, but they are only part of the picture. JHT3 is right that you need to cling to God’s love. As Christians, we do need to address areas of sin in our lives, but not because we think God hates us.
When I do things that hurt my wife, I don’t try hard to change because she’s mad at me. It’s because I love her, don’t want to hurt her, want to have an intimate relationship with her, and want to seek her good. That should be our motivation in addressing sin in our lives: we love God and want to be intimate with Him.
At the same time, if we don’t seek God’s love and closeness with Him, we’ll not have the power, or maybe even the desire, to rid ourselves of our sin. If I have a distant relationship with my wife, I’m going to care much less about the things I do that hurt her.
An additional thing that’s true about our relationship with God, beyond my spouse example, is that we need God’s power to overcome our sin. “White knuckling” doesn’t work for long, if at all. The website http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com teaches that, if we drink from a pure spring (finding our satisfaction in Christ), we won’t want muddy water from a broken cistern (trying to get satisfaction from carnal things).January 12, 2011 at 1:37 am #36563
yea thanks guys.. I guess my biggest problem is how do I get my heart and head to work together… I write a lot of poetry and It’s difficult to not be a Hippocrate cause my tounge always gets tied and I don’t know the right words to say.. there was a time when I was a hardcore christian and I didn’t smoke. or drink or anything.. I just fell so hard and there was a list of events (that I wont get into) that lead to my “fall from grace” but I guess that just builds character.. really believe it or not when I smoke pot I pray it’s just that it’s illegal and that makes me paranoid. I’m already a diagnosed skitzo/bipolar so it’s difficult… I suppose I need the fellowship and that’s what is bringing me down.. some times I feel like I am just awaiting death like an old man in an old folks home abandoned by his family but I know that’s not true.. I know God has a plan for my life.. I’m just stumbling around hoping to catch a break.. The vibe in my heart is so strong that sometimes I can’t connect it to my mouth and I end up “babeling”… If I had the opportunity to sing with a band ( christian music) and they could teach me how to read music that would light me up like a Christmas Tree.. so until then I’m just beat adtic with.. a heart for god…
peace..January 12, 2011 at 6:35 am #36564
@Monster Baby wrote:
(.. some times I feel like I am just awaiting death like an old man in an old folks home abandoned by his family but I know that’s not true..
No dude. Your Family won’t abandon you. I feel like we’re already family man. This is the nitty gritty of brotherly fellowship. We’re here for you in what ever way we can be of assistance.
Do you have skype? Sometimes some of us get on skype and have random conference calls and totally kick it and share, and crack jokes, and send each other on YouTube surfings. Lol. Would love to have you join us sometime.
Go ahead and add me if u have an account or end up making one: sixty-sixJanuary 12, 2011 at 6:59 am #36565
We’re all brothers and sisters and we love you as such. And praise God because we share a Father who loves us each more than we can ever know no matter what we do!January 12, 2011 at 7:29 pm #36566
no I don’t have that, its my moms pc and I am not allowed to d-load any thing….January 13, 2011 at 6:36 pm #36567
I like to read Psalm 1
Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers,
but whose delight is in the law of the LORD,
and who meditates on his law day and night.
That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither—
whatever they do prospers.
Do not go where sin is. Go where God is. Go to church, go to a Bible study, prayer group, pick up a ministry in church, even if it’s cleaning bathrooms. Go to your pastor for advice and prayer support. Fill up your time with ministry and you won’t have time to sin. I am praying you make a right choice.
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