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  • #21034
    Avatar of zombycat
    zombycat
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    I’m not just a newb here, but a complete and total newbie to the EDM scene. I’ve liked a lot of what I’ve heard over the years, but known nothing about what goes into producing and mixing tracks. I still don’t really, but I want to learn. This leads me to my question(s):

    Where and how do I start? What should my first steps be? I unfortunately have little or no money I can sink into this right now, so I’m stuck working with my computer with its broken disc drive and basic speakers. Ummm… help?

    #29271
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    Do you play an instrument? (Preferably a keyboard) ?

    #29272
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    zombycat
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    Err, no… :? I’m a vocalist.

    #29273
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    Well, music production is still possible, although a bit more difficult, without it. I guess I would find out who on here makes the kind of music you want to make and pick their brains a bit.

    #29274
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    It can be done. I taught myself from nothing and have built my way up from there. 9 years on, I’ve taught music and know more than a lot of my friends who have learned from others. The first big step in the process is deciding what you like. Do yourself a favor and use wikipedia and youtube to look up the following types of music:

    House
    Funky house
    Hard House
    Techno
    Breakbeat
    Nu Breaks
    Drum and Bass
    Triphop
    Trance
    Vocal Trance
    Psytrance
    Gabba
    Jungle

    see which of these sync’s up with what you want to learn and let us know. then we can give you an idea of what you can use to make it and what you’ll have to know.

    -Lodger

    #29275
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    Well, we’ve got some really great trance DJs here, and that’s where I find myself drawn most, especially vocal trance. I want to learn to mix too, so maybe it would be better to start there? I know so little right now that I don’t even know how much I don’t know..

    #29276
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    ok- so now that you have an idea of what you want to do, why not start by making lists of artists and songs in that genre that you like. Being a dj is more than you mixing skillset but is more about your knowledge of what you can play. learn the music and then you will learn how it flows together. Put together a list of a hundred artists or a hundred songs and what labels released their stuff and then, grasshopper, you will be ready for your next bit of instruction.

    -Lodger

    #29277
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    ~crickets chirp~ Yes, Sensei. ;)

    #29278
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    Great advice logger!

    Something else you can look at for production is a program by Sony called ACID. There are several versions – I have used one of the cheap versions for commercial work.

    Now, a lot of producers give this a bad rap – but it’s a great way to learn about how songs are constucted – and a quick way to get your ideas down solid.

    Realize that at some point you’ll want to move on from the program, but it’s a great (and cheap) way to started.

    The bottom line is – you learn how to make music by making music.

    #29279
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    agreed. I started off using a way cheap little program called techno ejay….it was like a fisher price version of music production, but once you get the hang of putting together full songs with it, you’ll be ready to take on a higher-end program or hardware.

    #29280
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    I’ve never used eJay myself… but they have some cool vids of it up on YouTube, and it is a lot cheeper than Acid (at least on Amazon).

    Either way, you can find tutorials on YouTube as well.

    #29281
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    The best technical advise I’ve ever had was – “Tutorials, tutorials, tutorials” and “Practice, practice, practice”…

    Inspiration is also very important, at least to me. If I can’t hum, I got nothing to play. I gotta sing it before I can play it. This I’m still working on. Actually that’s all I’m working on at this moment, music wise.

    I hum a lot of things now and again and get a lot of full songs progressively as I build up the “hum”, but pinning them down just as I sing them is the challenge and getting the right vibe.

    Godspeed!

    #29282
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    lodger
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    tutorials are critical. Additionally, something to remember is that practice doesnt make perfect- it just makes better. regarding thw world of music perfect does not exist. savor small improvements and you’ll find it to be intensely satisfying

    #29283
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    Woo! This is good stuff guys! Thank you for your feedback and help. I’m about 40 songs into my 100 song list, and I’ll be looking up Ejay and ACID in the next few days to see what I might be able to afford. I’ll start with the tutorials on youtube pronto as well.

    #29284
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    another thing would be to get yourself serato scratch live and a cheap mixer, you can plug in the interface and mix on your computer fairly decently like that and it should only be roughly 600$ msax, that is if you buy brand new, but you said that you dont have much money, there also are dj starter kits that run around 300$ go to http://www.pssl.com they have everything you will ever and have ever dreamed about djing there… thats my 2 cents for now…

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