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Going Digital w/ midi – Vestax Typhoon


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  • #22516
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
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    I’ve finally made my mind up and it’s taken forever to come to a conclusion: I’m going to get the Vestax Typhoon and go the digital/midi controller route.

    It was either the Typhoon, or the the BCD3000, or the MK2 and I finally rested on the Typhoon for it’s build quality and jog wheel sensitivity. I want the ability to carry all the gear I need in a small bag and still have good quality control of the music.

    Might add a Kontrol X1 later when I have the funds, Traktor being the software of choice here.

    Anyone had a go on the Typhoon yet? I’m looking for any comments on the hardware as it’s quite new.

    #35242

    Rodimus
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    i went digital a couple of years back. sold my TTs and got a Torq Xponent.

    Love it.

    #35243
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
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    Yup, saw your xponent in ‘Post your setup’. Sweeeet piece of hardware. What’s the jog wheel sensitivity like. I’m going for Vestax mostly for their jog wheel functionality. Heard it’s the bomb. Just worried I don’t have enough knobs/buttons in the end. From what I gather as a controllerist you always want more.
    I figure I’ll work my way up from a Typhoon to the VCI-100 one day and then…….

    tadaaaaaa

    The end goal (it’s good to have goals you know!).

    #35244

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    oooh thats SEXY! me want.

    #35245

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    hmmm $1199.00 for that….

    well I know I can get about $400 for my Xponent… so that only leaves $800.00! lol

    still…its very sexy. im gonna watch this one…if it drops under $1000.00 I may have to swoop one up.

    #35246
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
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    Swoop away brother.

    I’m still trying to decide which kidney to donate to get the Typhoon! :D

    #35247
    Avatar of djdunamis
    djdunamis
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    I don’t see too much difference between a VCI-100 and a Typhoon. I see they have several controllers. You just need to decide which has the functions you need and does it work with Traktor. Any probably would but some preset for it.

    If you’re planning to get an X1 and want to upgrade to another controller, I would hold off on both and get this when it comes out or you’re able to afford it.

    http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/dj/traktor-kontrol-s4/

    This would be better if you’re wanting to get a better controller along with an X1.

    Also it will probably cost less than the NS7 and also the NS7′s are made for Serato unless you remap it.

    If I were to go controller only this is the one I would probably pick up. I have looked at the Numark Stealth Control or their Mixdeck/Mixtrack.

    Just food for thought.

    #35248
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
    Member

    The biggest difference between typhoon & VCI-100 is the price. Also fewer knobs and the build quality is a bit lower on the typhoon.

    Charles Ono (VP at Vestax) anwsers questions on the Typhoon compared to the VCI-300 (the -100′s big brother):
    Q: Are the jog wheels and soundcard the same quality found on the VCI-300?
    A: No; they are different from those on the 300.
    Q: Will the buttons and faders feel similar to the VCI-300?
    A: They are a little lighter but fairly similar.

    The S4 is real pretty! It’s great to see these controllers coming out now. I believe controller-ism is taking DJ’s a step further into the future and I want to start somewhere now to be able to learn the basics. The NS7 and S4 are the end goal. Can’t wait.

    Thanks for the advice bro.

    #35249
    Avatar of Josiah Fingaz
    Josiah Fingaz
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    I have the Vestax 300 and love it. I like to scratch at times and like the control of the jog wheels. They are totally sick! You can adjust the sensitivity and the feel to your liking. Also the autoloop feature is awesome for looping on the fly. And you can preset loops and cues which come in very handy. Its a workhorse. I’ve put mine to much use and it has held up great! Vestax and Serato make great products. (This message was approved by Vestax and Serato.)

    #35250
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
    Member

    Oh dear, my mind has changed again. I can’t keep up with all the technological advances out there.

    I was wondering about a ‘digital – analog’ hybrid setup as in the following, and I could use some advice from the experts:
    2 x Numark NDX800 (CD, mp3, USB, MIDI)
    1 x Beringer DDM4000 (4 channel analog-digital mixer)
    + Traktor

    This would mean I’d be able to use the analog functionality of both the NDX800′s and the DDM4000 to play CD’s and then use the hardware via MIDI with traktor for a ‘digital’ setup.

    Question 1: Would this mean I’d also need a soundcard like the NI audio 2 for sound uotput from Traktor?
    Question 2: I’ve seen a guy map one NDX800 with Traktor Pro to be able to use all 4 channels with one NDX800. Does this mean that I only would need 1 x NDX800 to use the channels and then the MIDI control from the Beringer to mix the channels in Traktor? I’m trying to limit spending the extra cash initially to get started in Traktor with the 1 NDX800!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjSeRC3I3Y

    Any advice? Alternate system recommendations are welcome.

    #35251
    Avatar of djdunamis
    djdunamis
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    Yes that will work for a setup. Long as you see using cds a good bit, other than that, getting an analog/midi mixer is almost overkill. Since you’re using cd turntables then that would be fine. By the looks of the video, one turntable would do all four but make it difficult and somewhat lop-sided. I would consider getting two. I would map the controls of the mixer to the mixing and effects section of Traktor and then one turntable can do the controls of decks 1/3 and other for 2/4. Then still be able to play cds off both decks and any other audio sources.

    Only thing is how the mixer handles midi. Can you switch from it to the audio part on any channel or is it on all the time? If its on all time, then you may find yourself getting an Audio 8 DJ so you can route all four Traktor decks to your mixer and mixing from there.

    I use a Ecler NUO4 for mixing and it has three channels of midi and two can be switched between midi and audio.

    Other than that, setup looks good.

    #35252
    Avatar of kingd53
    kingd53
    Member

    Thanks for the help DJDUNAMIS.

    I agree the DDM4000 might be a bit overkill. Do you know of any 2 channel mixers with good midi mappability? The Ecler NUO4 is no longer available. The new NUO4.0 is not midi compliant (EVO 4 is their new 4 channel midi mixer and it costs a liver, a kidney and 6 pints of blood).

    I aim to eventually get 2 x NDX800′s to have a good analog setup with the mixer but wanted to start off learning to play via traktor first so the first NDX800 will be my ‘controller’ to load up tracks on 2 or 4 traktor decks.

    #35253
    Avatar of djdunamis
    djdunamis
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    @kingd53 wrote:

    Thanks for the help DJDUNAMIS.

    I agree the DDM4000 might be a bit overkill. Do you know of any 2 channel mixers with good midi mappability? The Ecler NUO4 is no longer available. The new NUO4.0 is not midi compliant (EVO 4 is their new 4 channel midi mixer and it costs a liver, a kidney and 6 pints of blood).

    I aim to eventually get 2 x NDX800′s to have a good analog setup with the mixer but wanted to start off learning to play via traktor first so the first NDX800 will be my ‘controller’ to load up tracks on 2 or 4 traktor decks.

    I would consider just using a good midi controller and Traktor until you can afford two. Just feel awkward to me only having one to use.

    Also on the mixer, take a look at Numark since you like the NDX800, http://www.numark.com/computerdjvj They have couple of mixers that have USB In and Outs on it and you can from what I read, output Traktor to your mixer. Then you’ll be able to mix, level and EQ the signal from Traktor.

    Didn’t know about the Ecler mixers. I got my for half of what the EVO4 costs and it does MIDI. Though the EVO4 looks like a better setup for MIDI to me but at one time I’ve thought about downsizing.

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