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  • #22826
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
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    I have a mental disability.. It’s called skitzofrena .. I hear voices and have very intense dreams. As long as I’m on my meds you’ll never know I have a problem unless I drink caffine.

    Here’s the delema, how do I know I am not having some sort of spiritual experience. For instance the other day I had a dream and the voice said “we must never mention your name again” and in my frustration I said “man that’s just some skitzo voice” and then the voice said “oh your dad” and I saw an image of a fire. So I came on the net and wrote my name. The next day the voice said “the memory of you is lost”. Is this really God talking to me or do I need to seek spiritual counciling??

    #36412
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
    Participant

    and then I read this..

    Psalm 142 (New International Version, ©2010)

    Psalm 142
    Psalm 142[a]
    A maskil of David. When he was in the cave. A prayer.

    1 I cry aloud to the LORD;
    I lift up my voice to the LORD for mercy.
    2 I pour out before him my complaint;
    before him I tell my trouble.

    3 When my spirit grows faint within me,
    it is you who watch over my way.
    In the path where I walk
    people have hidden a snare for me.
    4 Look and see, there is no one at my right hand;
    no one is concerned for me.
    I have no refuge;
    no one cares for my life.

    5 I cry to you, LORD;
    I say, “You are my refuge,
    my portion in the land of the living.”

    6 Listen to my cry,
    for I am in desperate need;
    rescue me from those who pursue me,
    for they are too strong for me.
    7 Set me free from my prison,
    that I may praise your name.
    Then the righteous will gather about me
    because of your goodness to me.

    #36413

    Today if possible, Speak with your Pastor or an Elder in your Church, face to face contact. Don’t ever give up Brother. Take this to your Pastor or an Elder. the gods djs crew is here for you, however face to face contact with a Spiritual Leader is what i feel is best, Let us know how it goes. Much Love , Keep the Faith and God Bless You.

    #36414

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    first thank you for feeling comfortable to share this personal issue with us. you will always find a loving (non-judging) community here to help. i totally agree with what ryan said ^ but i consider this…

    If God was speaking to you audibly or in your mind you would have NO QUESTION that the voice you were hearing is His. The fact that you question it tells me that more then likely its not his voice. Now, I could be wrong of course… but just think about it for a second. If the God of the universe was talking to you…do you think he would allow you to have ANY doubt that the voice was Him?

    #36415
    Avatar of graphite412
    graphite412
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    It’s awesome that you brought this up Monster Baby. Many people would not have the guts to talk about this sort of stuff. I’ll be praying for you. I know that a lot of what medical science calls mental illnesses are spiritual attacks or demonic stuff. It sounds like what you are experiencing is demonic voices. Don’t feel ashamed, I have had lots of experiences where demons attack me, but the Lord can always help. Quoting scripture against the voices as the sword of God, getting prayer for deliverance, rebuking the spirit in Jesus name, praying in the Spirit, etc can all help out. Just like Jesus was temped by the Devil and quoted scripture, we as believers can do the same.

    Mat 4:1 Then Jesus was led up into the wilderness by the Spirit, to be tempted by the Devil.
    Mat 4:2 And having fasted forty days and forty nights, afterwards He hungered.
    Mat 4:3 And coming near to Him, the Tempter said, If You are the Son of God, speak that these stones may become loaves.
    Mat 4:4 But answering, He said, It has been written: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but on every Word going out of the mouth of God.” Deut. 8:3

    Here are some scriptures on how to test the spirits to see if they are from God or not.

    1John 4:1-3
    1Jn 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
    1Jn 4:2 By this know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.
    1Jn 4:3 And every spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not from God; and this is the antichrist which you heard is coming, and now is already in the world.

    In trances/dreams I have used this to find out that spirits that came to me were demons in disguise. So it is important to test the spirits. If you have any other questions feel free to ask!

    #36416
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
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    I don’t have a regular preacher to ask, haven’t been to church in about a year…

    The scripture I think of in “defense” of these voices is and I forgot where it’s at, says something to the effect of “you naturally don’t believe, because your father the devil is a liar”

    I’ve been struggling with these voices for about 12 years now and basically I do listen but the manifestation is just not there.. I think if it were really God I would manifest in the spirit, at the same time I really have no idea how the manifestation would work. I’m not educated in the scriptures. Alls I know is that the blood of Jesus saves me if I choose to believe and I do. I’ve been baptized 3 times and my mom had me christened as a child so it’s just a matter of getting the holy spirit flowing I guess. Divine healing is my hope.. and you don’t hear many preachers talking about healing skitzos…

    thanks for the prayers…

    #36417

    where are you located? it’s possible someone from the gods djs crew lives in your area or know’s someone that does , who can get you plugged in with a solid , bible teaching Church. i agree with nate, if God was speaking to you. you would not be confused. you would know it is God. The word of God states, God is not the author of confusion. I am 99% sure the voices you heard were not of God. I would strongly urge you to get plugged into a Loving Church. I was diagnosed with bi polar mania and borderline paranoid schizophrenia about 8 years ago. coming out of a long stint in the underground rave scene from 99-03. things that i did during that time frame triggered this illness. i used to take a lot of medicine for my illness but over time, as i attended Church as much as possible, went to bible studies weekly, hung out with other Solid Chrisitans, prayed constantly, read the Word Daily, things started to change. i am now off all but 1 medication ( which i have taken almost 3 years for anxiety ) The LORD completely healed me. I have been blessed with strong loving Pastor’s who care about what was going on in my head. i am around strong Elder’s, have a lot of brother’s and sister’s in Christ to speak with. The point i am coming to…. do not fear going to a Bible Teaching Church and after the service. walk up to the Pastor and ask him to speak with you. I am willing to say, that Pastor will sit down with you right then, for as long as it takes to help you get through what is going on. I promise you, when you surround yourself with Solid Christians, have face to face contact, fellowship with other Christians, building each other up, encouraging each other, when you are obedient and follow Christ’s teachings, you will be delivered from this illness. Think back to Jesus and the Disciples. They were together all the time, they were together as much as possible, they were a family…. I pray brother, as soon as possible. today, tomorrow , at the latest sunday morning, you walk into a Christian Church, worship God with other loving Christians and after the service reach out to the Pastor.

    Don’t give up, do not let the enemy lie and tell you ” you can’t do it ” or ” you will never be healed ” or ” this pastor is going to judge you ” or ” you are not welcome in this building ” those quotes are all Lies.

    THE TRUTH IS. YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD, GOD LOVES YOU, HIS CHILDREN LOVE YOU, HIS PASTOR’S, ELDERS AND SOLID BROTHER’S AND SISTER’S IN CHRIST LOVE YOU. I hope to hear back from you, my heart feels your pain, i completely understand and can relate to what you have been through and what you are going through as i went through this years ago. we are here for you brother, Real Talk. Much Love and God Bless You.

    #36418
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
    Participant

    114 W Emma St. Tampa fl 33603…

    yea it seems hopeless sometimes.. If anyone is close I’m willing..

    #36419

    Tampa FL, Praise God !

    You got me all excited. I hope you dig Holy Hip Hop. Either way, this is a SOLID Church. Amazing group of Christian’s, I’m telling you my heart jumped when you said Tampa.

    Crossover Church.
    1235 E. Fowler Ave. Tampa, Fl 33612
    office phone: (813) 971-8887
    http://www.crossoverchurch.org

    Check this out. Pastor Tommy Kyllonen, aka Urband D. This Brother is Solid.
    If I was in Tampa, I would be at Crossover Chruch as much as possible. There are some big things going on there and God is moving in an amazing way.

    http://www.urband.org
    http://www.facebook.com/urband813

    Check out the Church website and Let me know what you feel Brother.

    #36420
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
    Participant

    yea um haha I sort of got arrested at that church… I’ve been in contact since but yea I’d go if they invited me back…

    anyways they just opened that new building at the old toys are us by USF…

    I sent urban d a message vis face book so we’ll see…

    #36421

    i will pm you

    #36423

    @Monster Baby wrote:

    I have a mental disability.. It’s called skitzofrena .. I hear voices and have very intense dreams. As long as I’m on my meds you’ll never know I have a problem unless I drink caffine.

    Here’s the delema, how do I know I am not having some sort of spiritual experience. For instance the other day I had a dream and the voice said “we must never mention your name again” and in my frustration I said “man that’s just some skitzo voice” and then the voice said “oh your dad” and I saw an image of a fire. So I came on the net and wrote my name. The next day the voice said “the memory of you is lost”. Is this really God talking to me or do I need to seek spiritual counciling??

    i have a similar problem. i have bipolar schizoaffective disorder. some doctors have thought i had just schizophrenia before, some thought it was just bipolar some think it’s a bit of both

    luckily i dont hear voices. but i get verrrrrrrrrrrry high. sometimes i think im a prophet. even Jesus at times…but there have been times ive had subtle visual hallucinations. like i’d see things in the distance moving around when they arent. or my visual perception of faces would be totally twisted (not in the literal sense, just in their facial expressions get exaggerated). i also misinterpret small innocent gestures during those phases

    unfortunately when psychosis settles in i end up in hospital. my average stay is about 4-6 weeks. yikes

    im currently on 1000mg of epilim/sodium valproate a day for the mood disorder side of things (so i wont go too high or too low)

    and im also on 7.5mg of zyprexa/olanzapine so i wont go psychotic…
    but they’re going to ween me off this and eventually i will be off it for good

    good luck brother (or sister… but most schizophrenics ive known have been overwhelmingly male)

    #36422
    Avatar of Monster Baby
    Monster Baby
    Participant

    well lucky for me I just started a study at usf in which case I’ll be the “ginnie pig” to test new medication and I’m getting paid for it… some drug addicts would probly pay for the hulicinations I have it’s like I’m licking the back of a frog every night….

    #36424
    Avatar of soundguytim
    soundguytim
    Member

    the truth of the matter is, if it is God talking to you, you will have peace about it. if it is the enemy , it will go away when you speak the name of Jesus.
    remember, god will not say ANYTHING that is contrary to the bible. if you ask god to give you clarity and discernment, he will!!! the next time it happens, speak the name of Jesus over yourself and thought etc. the bible says in Mark 16:17 “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; (NKJ) you have the power over the enemy in Jesus!

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