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  • #22957
    Avatar of Brine
    Brine
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    Lately, I have noticed on facebook that a lot of my friends who I have are starting to catch on to the trend of DJing, and Producing.

    I find it almost as if people are trying to fit in with the cool. It seems now-a-days everyone is a DJ / Producer vs. The people who actually do it.

    What do you guys think?

    #36915
    Avatar of djellipse
    djellipse
    Member

    well… honestly… anyone who has a computer and a little bit of money (or not if they go and download a torrent which i dont recommended to anyone…) can be a dj, producer, or both… but what really matters is weather or not they can make legitimate tracks, and can actually dj with skill (IE not using a beat counter, or auto beat matching software) which actually kind of gets on my nerves because there has been a large influx of really crappy EDM recently… but on the other hand ive heard some epic hits recently as well… so regardless of whether u get into producing or dj’ing because “its cool” or if you are genuinely fascinated with the skill, and culture that goes along with it, if you can make a good track… have at it! just dont try to tell me that i did it the same way because that will piss me off… i got into djing when it was actually a skill. Now they have all kinds of programs and utilities that if you let them… turn a dj into a human jukebox. Ive also been producing for about 12 years, and have only been decent at it for about 4. The ones that are doing it because
    it’s cool” will stop when they realize that they suck at it, and lose interest. the ones who are genuinely interested in the craft will push through that stage, and become awesome producers, and incredible dj’s

    #36916

    Rodimus
    Keymaster

    brine!

    what the heck man!? where you been?

    are you 18 now? if so lets get your music up on the store :D

    #36917
    Avatar of Brine
    Brine
    Member

    I’m here! =D

    #36918
    Avatar of Brine
    Brine
    Member

    Ellipse I couldn’t agree anymore, truth be told I think you pretty much just spoke truth on this post!

    #36919
    Avatar of graphite412
    graphite412
    Participant

    agreed as well!

    #36920
    Avatar of DJFr3akshow
    DJFr3akshow
    Member

    I think being a DJ is a love for the music.. I started raving in the 90′s and got caught up with the drug culture and fell into a hole but always messed around with friends turntables..

    I found the lord like 6 years ago and still always loved the music and felt the Lord calling to start mixing music and started to look up ways to do it and realized that you can cheat by beat matching and not counting the out the beats and just mix away… After realizing that, I thought it is time to go to the basics and I think once these guy’s start realizing there is way more to it then just having a beat counter or a beat matcher or hitting a sync button (which I am guilty of hitting once in awhile because of laziness) and if they are truly serous about DJing they will start learning the craft of the old school DJ. I myself love to do cut’s in and out on tracks and I am learning to add loops and other stuff that can make it a lot more technical.

    As for producing there is no way any one should start producing until they learn the art of mix and mash tracks together.. I am learning how to use fruity loops but am no way ready to start producing tracks and releasing them, even though my mind is so full of idea’s…

    Well that is my 2 cents

    #36921
    Avatar of graphite412
    graphite412
    Participant

    I actually started producing before I had Dj gear. I’m actually now just starting to learn how to Dj.

    #36922
    Avatar of Josiah Fingaz
    Josiah Fingaz
    Participant

    @DJFr3akshow wrote:

    I think being a DJ is a love for the music.. I started raving in the 90′s and got caught up with the drug culture and fell into a hole but always messed around with friends turntables..

    I found the lord like 6 years ago and still always loved the music and felt the Lord calling to start mixing music and started to look up ways to do it and realized that you can cheat by beat matching and not counting the out the beats and just mix away… After realizing that, I thought it is time to go to the basics and I think once these guy’s start realizing there is way more to it then just having a beat counter or a beat matcher or hitting a sync button (which I am guilty of hitting once in awhile because of laziness) and if they are truly serous about DJing they will start learning the craft of the old school DJ. I myself love to do cut’s in and out on tracks and I am learning to add loops and other stuff that can make it a lot more technical.

    Wow, that is cool that you want to get into (or are getting into DJing/Producing). Sounds kind of like my story a bit. I was heavily involved in the Rave scene in the 90′s and became born again later on and started practicing DJing. I spoke to my pastor about wanting to use it as a tool for ministry to share the testimony that I had of the Lord and to minister to young people. I learned playing with vinyl but I wouldn’t even waste my time or money with that in the present time. And don’t get totally pigeonholed on the technical aspects of DJing. By all means learn the technical side of it for foundation but don’t stop there. The biggest parts of DJing and doing it well isn’t if you can beatmatch perfectly everytime. It’s track selection and reaching the audience. I’ve seen many guys who just stare down at their mixer the whole time tweaking knobs and effects. They lose a crowd with a quickness! And if you lose a crowd no one will hear your message. Some of my best training as a DJ has been through mobile DJing. You have to be able to entertain, communicate, and inspire. Otherwise you are just a guy playing other peoples music out of a little box.

    Example: My bro went to DEMF a few years ago and was so stoked to see Jeff Mills. He said he was totally let down. His technique is almost unmatched but he was a bore to watch. Like a alien with a slight bobble head. Now Stacy Pullen worked the crowd up into a frenzy because of his interaction with them.

    The more you can get the crowd involved the better. If you have the crowd doing whatever you are doing then you have them. You can’t do that if you are tweaking the 1000 different efx you have programmed into your set. So play out as much as you can. The first place I played was an Narcotics Anonymous Card/Game night. I spun trance and I’m sure almost everyone hated it. But it was the first step. I played at every coffee house, lock in,etc. that would let me play. I found you kind of have to leave part of the Rave mentality of playing some epic long sets and perform more like a band would. Most people aren’t on amphetimines wanting to dance 10 hours into the night. Know your crowd. If you can add a sample of something familiar it will go a long way in winning the crowd. They have no clue who Deadmau5, Agnello, PVD, and Wolfgang Gartner is so you have to connect them to the music somehow.

    Also, throw your own events or open up for some local christian bands. Market it by letting them know that you are bringing something different to the table. Ask them how many concerts have they been to that really don’t offer anything but, “Which flavor of Rock do you like?”. Sorry, if I’m a bit hard to follow. Just trying to give you a list of pointers that I have learned over the past seven years. From doing the youth group “Pizza Rave Party Pack events” (Pizza, Pop, & Glowstick for $3) to music festivals I have had lots of time to experience what works and what doesn’t. If you work some of this out now it won’t take you near as long before you are rocking the crowd for Jesus!

    #36923

    Joisah, You are right on Brother.

    #36924
    Avatar of DJFr3akshow
    DJFr3akshow
    Member

    @Josiah Fingaz wrote:

    @DJFr3akshow wrote:
    I think being a DJ is a love for the music.. I started raving in the 90′s and got caught up with the drug culture and fell into a hole but always messed around with friends turntables..

    I found the lord like 6 years ago and still always loved the music and felt the Lord calling to start mixing music and started to look up ways to do it and realized that you can cheat by beat matching and not counting the out the beats and just mix away… After realizing that, I thought it is time to go to the basics and I think once these guy’s start realizing there is way more to it then just having a beat counter or a beat matcher or hitting a sync button (which I am guilty of hitting once in awhile because of laziness) and if they are truly serous about DJing they will start learning the craft of the old school DJ. I myself love to do cut’s in and out on tracks and I am learning to add loops and other stuff that can make it a lot more technical.

    Wow, that is cool that you want to get into (or are getting into DJing/Producing). Sounds kind of like my story a bit. I was heavily involved in the Rave scene in the 90′s and became born again later on and started practicing DJing. I spoke to my pastor about wanting to use it as a tool for ministry to share the testimony that I had of the Lord and to minister to young people. I learned playing with vinyl but I wouldn’t even waste my time or money with that in the present time. And don’t get totally pigeonholed on the technical aspects of DJing. By all means learn the technical side of it for foundation but don’t stop there. The biggest parts of DJing and doing it well isn’t if you can beatmatch perfectly everytime. It’s track selection and reaching the audience. I’ve seen many guys who just stare down at their mixer the whole time tweaking knobs and effects. They lose a crowd with a quickness! And if you lose a crowd no one will hear your message. Some of my best training as a DJ has been through mobile DJing. You have to be able to entertain, communicate, and inspire. Otherwise you are just a guy playing other peoples music out of a little box.

    Example: My bro went to DEMF a few years ago and was so stoked to see Jeff Mills. He said he was totally let down. His technique is almost unmatched but he was a bore to watch. Like a alien with a slight bobble head. Now Stacy Pullen worked the crowd up into a frenzy because of his interaction with them.

    The more you can get the crowd involved the better. If you have the crowd doing whatever you are doing then you have them. You can’t do that if you are tweaking the 1000 different efx you have programmed into your set. So play out as much as you can. The first place I played was an Narcotics Anonymous Card/Game night. I spun trance and I’m sure almost everyone hated it. But it was the first step. I played at every coffee house, lock in,etc. that would let me play. I found you kind of have to leave part of the Rave mentality of playing some epic long sets and perform more like a band would. Most people aren’t on amphetimines wanting to dance 10 hours into the night. Know your crowd. If you can add a sample of something familiar it will go a long way in winning the crowd. They have no clue who Deadmau5, Agnello, PVD, and Wolfgang Gartner is so you have to connect them to the music somehow.

    Also, throw your own events or open up for some local christian bands. Market it by letting them know that you are bringing something different to the table. Ask them how many concerts have they been to that really don’t offer anything but, “Which flavor of Rock do you like?”. Sorry, if I’m a bit hard to follow. Just trying to give you a list of pointers that I have learned over the past seven years. From doing the youth group “Pizza Rave Party Pack events” (Pizza, Pop, & Glowstick for $3) to music festivals I have had lots of time to experience what works and what doesn’t. If you work some of this out now it won’t take you near as long before you are rocking the crowd for Jesus!

    Well I have found it hard to Find events and that sort of thing do to the fact I am in a small town and I don’t have many Christian friends or even know of that many Christian DJ’s out in the surrounding area of Toronto Canada and was hoping to find and talk with other DJ’s here at God’s DJ’s.. I have been praying that I would find some. I hate that I am at age were most Christians are married at this age.. But like I said i am looking to find DJ’s with the same passions I have for this type of music.. I have been feeling as if God wants to take it back and I would love to find other to maybe even start holding events… I have be honest I don’t even know were to start, so I will try here.. If you guy’s know of any DJ’s in Toronto Canada or surrounding area that I can hook up with that would be awesome..

    Also if you would like to hear what my mixes sound like I can link you to my podcast page.. Just send me a e-mail @ freakshow1979@hotmail.com

    #36925
    Avatar of djdunamis
    djdunamis
    Participant

    @DJ Ryan Goode wrote:

    Joisah, You are right on Brother.

    x2

    course some of the best DJ’s can read a crowd, select a good playlist and beatmatch well. :D

    #36926
    Avatar of DJFr3akshow
    DJFr3akshow
    Member

    I go through 100′s of tracks just to find tracks.. but who knows what i like is what others like…

    #36927
    Avatar of Josiah Fingaz
    Josiah Fingaz
    Participant

    @djdunamis wrote:

    course some of the best DJ’s can read a crowd, select a good playlist and beatmatch well. :D

    Yes, I think a good DJ needs all three. I believe you put them in the right order of importance IMO. I remember reading an article on the guys of Bassment Jaxx and the admitted that they weren’t really great mixers but they knew how to work a crowd and pick the right tracks for their crowd. I think they did pretty well.

    Crowd connection, good playlist, and proper mixing. The triad of a DJ. ;)

    #36928
    Avatar of DJFr3akshow
    DJFr3akshow
    Member

    @Josiah Fingaz wrote:

    Yes, I think a good DJ needs all three. I believe you put them in the right order of importance IMO. I remember reading an article on the guys of Bassment Jaxx and the admitted that they weren’t really great mixers but they knew how to work a crowd and pick the right tracks for their crowd. I think they did pretty well.

    Crowd connection, good playlist, and proper mixing. The triad of a DJ. ;)

    Well I agree if you can find the right tracks that fit together it will be amazing set and also I love when DJ’s are dancing and jumping around to what there doing, then truly you know he loves what he his doing and Bassment Jaxx is some old school stuff and I think i saw them once or twice, but those days a blurry….

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